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Is Caution by Mariah Carey the biggest flop in recent years?

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19 minutes ago, fentypark said:

1. stop calling me girl. I am not a girl. 

2. being on a playlist does not guarantee a song will get a large amount of streams

3. the song is over 10 years. if it was that easy other 10 year old songs would be doing it  

Delusion. It happens specifically because of Christmas.

Arianas' Santa tell me got over 7 million streams on Spotify on Xmas eve, now that's an example of slaying without promotion. 

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12 minutes ago, Elusive Loverboy said:

24 year old songs aren’t likely to get good streams.

why is Mariah having a guaranteed hit every year a bad thing anyways? Why do you care?

My thread was about Caution. It was others who turned it into the Christmas jingle. 

Also nothing is guaranteed, might i remind you that it was not eligible to chart until 2012, when the rules were changed. 

Don't count on them never being changed again.

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14 minutes ago, Elusive Loverboy said:

24 year old songs aren’t likely to get good streams.

why is Mariah having a guaranteed hit every year a bad thing anyways? Why do you care?

Except for Christmas songs. At Christmas. 

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12 minutes ago, King or Queen said:

Except for Christmas songs. At Christmas. 

How many Christmas songs exist?

A LOT!

yet Mariah has managed to keep the #1 spot on the holiday charts for 24 years. Stop acting as if that’s an easy feat.

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5 minutes ago, Elusive Loverboy said:

How many Christmas songs exist?

A LOT!

yet Mariah has managed to keep the #1 spot on the holiday charts for 24 years. Stop acting as if that’s an easy feat.

With her single. She is easily outsold by others when it comes to albums at xmas. Buble and Pentatonix hit top 5 with their albums this year. 

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3 minutes ago, King or Queen said:

With her single. She is easily outsold by others when it comes to albums at xmas. Buble and Pentatonix hit top 5 with their albums this year. 

Buble and Pentatonix’s albums didn’t debut 24 years ago but go off :laughcry:

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2 minutes ago, Elusive Loverboy said:

Buble and Pentatonix’s albums didn’t debut 24 years ago but go off :laughcry:

It's irrelevant when the song is promoted every year. Andy Williams song from like 1963 hit no 9 this year, with no buzz at all. Arguably more impressive. 

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9 minutes ago, King or Queen said:

It's irrelevant when the song is promoted every year. Andy Williams song from like 1963 hit no 9 this year, with no buzz at all. Arguably more impressive. 

Albums are not the same as singles. Most people are not going to stream an hour long album.

Mariah didn’t promote AIWFCIY at all in the US, and only by a tour overseas this year. Your obsession with Mariah is scaring me.

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12 minutes ago, Elusive Loverboy said:

Albums are not the same as singles. Most people are not going to stream an hour long album.

Mariah didn’t promote AIWFCIY at all in the US, and only by a tour overseas this year. Your obsession with Mariah is scaring me.

It is being promoted where it matters. On streaming platforms. That is what it taking it into the top six. Singing it on Ellen will not make any difference. She does not need to do that sort of thing for this song. 

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3 minutes ago, King or Queen said:

It is being promoted where it matters. On streaming platforms. That is what it taking it into the top six. Singing it on Ellen will not make any difference. She does not need to do that sort of thing for this song. 

Too bad streaming still couldn’t salvage Zayn’s career :yikes: 

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14 minutes ago, Elusive Loverboy said:

Albums are not the same as singles. Most people are not going to stream an hour long album.

Mariah didn’t promote AIWFCIY at all in the US, and only by a tour overseas this year. Your obsession with Mariah is scaring me.

Your deflecting is a little sad sis. Just because I seem to know more about Mariah than you lol. 

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2 minutes ago, Elusive Loverboy said:

Too bad streaming still couldn’t salvage Zayn’s career :yikes: 

Ooh im hurt,You got me LOL. 

Do you think I care where Zayn charts, its like irrelevant to me. 

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Chart Performance Worldwide ;

  • US 5-55-163-OUT
  • Australia 15-OUT
  • Canada 15-OUT
  • Spain 19-75-OUT
  • Portugal 22-OUT
  • Japan 30-OUT
  • Switzerland 35-OUT
  • Italy 35-OUT
  • Belgium 38-OUT
  • The Netherlands 38-OUT
  • UK 40-OUT
  • NZ 40-OUT
  • Austria 54-OUT
  • Ireland 63-OUT
  • France 71-OUT
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