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Is America ruining pop music?

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So here's the tea.

We all know that the current BB100 charts are, well, a mess (in relation to pop music) but this isn't really the case for most places around the world.

If you take a look at the UK and Australian charts, sure there is still Drake but there is more pop songs from established and up and coming pop artists.

http://www.officialcharts.com/charts/

https://www.ariacharts.com.au/charts/singles-chart

Why is the American GP so set on destroying Pop music?

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Just now, Believe In Furler said:

It's really just America though. Every where else still appreciates and listens to Pop music, why ya'll gotta ruin it

Well, yeah but I think the trend will follow suit internationally, eventually. I hate it just as much as you but we may just be witnessing the death of pop music :deadbanana:

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51 minutes ago, Believe In Furler said:

It's really just America though

it's cause america got more people of color than other countries that birthed most forms of music today that white ppl riff off of and make big

hip hop became the #1 genre, even surpassing Rock- in a country that's the biggest hub for musical artists it's reflected on our charts. 

iirc studies said theres a growing % of fans of hiphop being white people, the market for such music is only growing, especially with soundcloud mumble rent-a-rappers signing million dollar deals and sparking 1-off hits that sick for some time. 

 

there's also just the general fact the charismatic pop legends from a decade ago aren't making the same hits even within the last few years, not only did demographic change but so did personalities- they just aren't there for the pop girls most of y'all want to see succeed.

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I hate when people say pop or rap sucks nowadays, like yea the top 10 charts are stale but y’all aren’t looking in the right places :elliesass: Do some digging before you dismiss this generation as a whole, not every artist you love is going to be a relevant success (unless that’s all you care about which is fine) :elliesass:

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Just now, Salvatore said:

it's cause america got more people of color than other countries that birthed most forms of music today that white ppl riff off of and make big

hip hop became the #1 genre, even surpassing Rock- in a country that's the biggest hub for musical artists it's reflected on our charts. 

iirc studies said theres a growing % of fans of hiphop being white people, the market for such music is only growing, especially with soundcloud mumble rent-a-rappers signing million dollar deals and sparking 1-off hits that sick for some time. 

 

there's also just the general fact the charismatic pop legends from a decade ago aren't making the same hits even within the last few years, not only did demographic change but so did personalities- they just aren't there for the pop girls most of y'all want to see succeed.

I am one of those white people being a fan of some rap/hip-hop artists and your last point is so accurate. It's sad that pops slowly dying, i expect it will make a comeback but i just reminisce the 2009-2012 period :trisha13:

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The quality of songs pop girls have been putting out is on the decline, and America shouldn't be blamed for that. :elliesass: Tell the girls to start creating better music.

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Just now, shmeur said:

don't be mad nobody cares about your local flops.  the most successful artists worldwide are american with the occasional british singer.

Yeah but how many good artists have come from here lately....

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America is just currently going through this phase of obsessing over hip-hop textures, but more importantly faux-nostalgia. Popstars who best emulate that nostalgia (currently Ed Sheeran, Adele and... the Chainsmokers? are they still relevant?) can release the same kind of pop music and still come out on top. Eventually this trend will die out and electropop with theatrical high-production videos will occupy the BB Hot 100 again. 

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5 minutes ago, shmeur said:

don't be mad nobody cares about your local flops.  the most successful artists worldwide are american with the occasional british singer.

American artists generally sell more, but only because of the size of the American music market. Not sure if you observe music trends and markets over the years but there's been a steady decline in American music consumed in overseas markets, especially the ones where pop music is still thriving. "Occasional British singer" is a misnomer because throughout history, British bands and singers have actually been overrepresented in "best selling artists worldwide" lists in proportion to the population of the UK. 

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The UK usually goes along with what the US  does... I still hear the basic and crap trend that going on, there's no variety. Trap/rap/hip-hop is trendy right now, and basic artists can get a hit. Also, it's much easier to get a one hit wonder than it is to keep producing 

the whole system is fucked 

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Just now, aahfeekiee said:

American artists generally sell more, but only because of the size of the American music market. Not sure if you observe music trends and markets over the years but there's been a steady decline in American music consumed in overseas markets, especially the ones where pop music is still thriving. "Occasional British singer" is a misnomer because throughout history, British bands and singers have actually been overrepresented in "best selling artists worldwide" lists in proportion to the population of the UK. 

well it seems that most people move to america if they want to become big worldwide

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